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Status : Green
Status Message :- NEVER land in the fields immediately adjacent to, or immediately across the road from the farm named 'The Hope' on the site guide map. Doing so will jeopardise permission to use the site.

- Please note that we do not currently have permission to access, take off from or land in the field north of NY173245 (although some pilots have assumed we have). This is the large field that extends up into the heather/fell side with the 226 spot height at the bottom of it (see site guide map). We are hoping to negotiate this field but, to increase the likelihood of success, for the time being PLEASE DO NOT GO IN THIS FIELD.

- We now have permission to LAND at the foot of the fell above the parking place; in any of the fields West and North West of the Hopebeck/Swinside/Whinlatter Road (apart from those fields immediately adjacent to 'The Hope' farm); and at present you may also land in the field south west of the 257 spot height.
Wind : WSW - NW    
Nil Wind : Yes    
Grid Ref : NY174243 Height (AMSL) : 1550' / 0m
Site Code : none Top to Bottom : 0' / 0m

Location

NW Lakes - N of Crummock Water

Details

A beautiful site that can provide classic scenic Lakes flying. Works best in W to NW winds, but can be flown OK in the more limiting WSW winds. Can sea breeze early, but will continue working although with more restricted lift.

Site Officer

Steve Giles : 01768 780297

Postcode for Sat Nav Systems (read the Health Warning!)

CA13 9UD

Millbeck. This house is half a mile SW of the Swinside parking area. From here you need to drive north 0.2 miles to the next road junction. Turn right here and drive up this road for just under half a mile. The car parking area is just after the gate going north (about 0.2 miles after 'The Hope' Farm).

Getting There

From Keswick take the B5292 off the A66 and head for Whinlatter Pass. About 1 km after the top of the pass turn left onto a narrow single-track road sign-posted 'Hopebeck'. Follow this round into the Lorton Valley and again turn left at the only junction. Drive through the first fell gate and descend to the parking area just before the second fell gate (and just before 'The Hope' Farm) (grid ref NY 169242).

Getting to takeoff

There is access all the way up to the top of the fell from the parking place ('P' on the map) and pilots may take off and land anywhere on this fellside above the road. Make sure that you do not get into the field with the 226 spot height (see map).

Take off is a direct ascent from the car park to above the heather line, so the walk up is hard! The best way (only obvious when you walk down) is to walk along the track SSE from the car park for around 100 metres. Look for 2 runnels going directly up the fell (see photo). Take the right hand runnel, after inspecting the landing area, and walk directly up the fell. Towards the top of the runnel (as seen in the photo) look closely for an indistinct track on the left going diagonally up the fell. This will take you steadily up although it peters out near the top. Get above the heather beds to find the grassy takeoff.

PLEASE CAREFULLY NOTE THE FOLLOWING:

1. NEVER land in the fields immediately adjacent to, or immediately across the road from the farm named 'The Hope' on the site guide map. Doing so will jeopardise permission to use the site.

2. At present fully approved access is only from the parking area at the foot of the fell (as above). Access by any other route is the subject of ongoing sensitive negotiations as follows.

3. We currently have a 'no objection' situation to access the site and land in the field south west of the 257 spot height. (see site guide map). There is a gate at map ref NY175252. If you park on the roadside near here, be sure you do not park opposite the gate or in any way that could hamper access for tractors or vehicles with trailers, and be prepared to obediently comply with requests from the farmer WITHOUT ARGUMENT. Walk south to the top of the field and through a sheep pen with two more gates. Then traverse the fell SW toward NY173245 where the dry stone wall meets the wire fence, which can be crossed here without causing damage. There are take offs around here, either side of the fence, suiting W to NW winds; in light winds, cross the fence and ascend the fell to the big flat take off area higher up.

4. Please note that we do not currently have permission to access, take off from or land in the field north of NY173245 (although some pilots have assumed we have). This is the large field that extends up into the heather/fell side with the 226 spot height at the bottom of it (see site guide map). We are hoping to negotiate this field but, to increase the likelihood of success, for the time being PLEASE DO NOT GO IN THIS FIELD.

5. We now have permission to LAND at the foot of the fell above the parking place; in any of the fields West and North West of the Hopebeck/Swinside/Whinlatter Road (apart from those fields immediately adjacent to 'The Hope' farm); and at present you may also land in the field west of the 257 spot height.

6. NEVER, EVER CLIMB A DRY STONE WALL.

XC potential

Opportunities for XC flying and exploring up and down the Lorton and Buttermere valleys are limitless.

Permission to use site

Ms C England, The Hope. NY167240.
Mr W Shields & Family, Scales Farm. NY166254.
Mr J Hope, Cornhow Farm. NY151223.
Mr J Meadley, High Bewaldeth. NY224343

IMPORTANT - Restrictions on use

1. NEVER land in the fields immediately adjacent to, or immediately across the road from the farm named 'The Hope' on the site guide map. Doing so will jeopardise permission to use the site.

2. At present fully approved access is only from the parking area at the foot of the fell (see site guide map). Access by any other route is the subject of ongoing sensitive negotiations as follows.

3. We currently have a 'no objection' situation to access the site and land in the field south west of the 257 spot height.(see site guide map). There is a gate at map ref NY175252. If you park on the roadside near here, be sure you do not park opposite the gate or in any way that could hamper access for tractors or vehicles with trailers, and be prepared to obediently comply with requests from the farmer WITHOUT ARGUMENT. Walk south to the top of the field and through a sheep pen with two more gates. Then traverse the fell SW toward NY173245 where the dry stone wall meets the wire fence, which can be crossed here without causing damage. There are take offs around here, either side of the fence, suiting W to NW winds; in light winds, cross the fence and ascend the fell to the big flat take off area higher up.

4. Please note that we do not currently have permission to access, take off from or land in the field north of NY173245 (although some pilots have assumed we have). This is the large field that extends up into the heather/fell side with the 226 spot height at the bottom of it (see site guide map). We are hoping to negotiate this field but, to increase the likelihood of success, for the time being PLEASE DO NOT GO IN THIS FIELD.

5. We now have permission to LAND at the foot of the fell above the parking place; in any of the fields West and North West of the Hopebeck/Swinside/Whinlatter Road (apart from those fields immediately adjacent to 'The Hope' farm); and at present you may also land in the field west of the 257 spot height.

6. NEVER, EVER CLIMB A DRY STONE WALL.

Paragliding

With increased landing areas this is now a classic site.

Hang Gliding

The guide used to say 'Not suitable due to big steep carry up and lack of suitable landing areas'. A hangie pilot has reviewed the new 'round the back' route up and the landing field south west of the 257 spot height and reckons it would be fine to land a hang-glider in.

Additional Safety Notes

Take care in freshening winds as being blown back is not an option and there are limited escape areas if this happens. Inexperienced pilots should take care on steep fellside landing.

Resources

Don't click on flight logs, download to your PC first (right click and 'Save Link As')

Type Click to Follow Link Notes
Google Earth - Car Park Google Earth
Google Street View - Parking Street ViewThe parking area at Swinside

Follow the links for further details of a site. For flights you will probably need to right click and save the link to your PC before opening Google Earth.
Google Earth links rely on Google Earth being installed on your system. Google Earth provides pan and tilt faciity. You can also upload your flights to GE - use GPS Dump (Links Page) to convert a variety of GPS file formats to a GE kml file

Local Information

Pubs

Nearest pubs to the site - for post flying debriefing only!

No pub details are available for this site. Send your recommendations to the webmaster.

 

A selection of photos showing key aspects of the site. If you have a good photo showing take off and landing areas, then send it to the webmaster. Aerial shots showing the landing area are especially welcome.

The car parking at Swinside is just by the lower gate on the fell. Park tidily as it's a bit cramped and it's used by walkers

Photo

An aerial view of the Swinside area looking S. The Swinside ridge is in the centre left with the wall running up it. You can see that there is a limited grass area between the wall and the bracken line. You must land on the open fell on this site, not in the fields. Photo reproduced with the permission of the copyright owner, Andrew McMahon. More pictures can be found on his web site.

Photo

Looking down to landing which is in the region of the tent - mainly to the left. It does slope.

Photo

The landing area looking SSE from just in front of the tent in the previous view

Photo

At take off looking NW. It helps to get above the heather!

Photo

From the car park walk along the track past the landing area. You need to walk up the right hand of these 2 runnels. As you walk up look carefully for a track on the left traversing diagonally up the fell

Photo

 

Site Records

This page shows records for this site. Some of the older records are not very detailed. More recent records may have an igc file available You can right click and download this to your PC. You can then use IGC Flight replay to view the flight.

Paragliding
FAI Triangle  
Distance : 38.0km approx
Date : 1999
Pilot : Patrick Holmes
Open Distance XC  
Distance : 46.0km
Date : Summer of 1999
Pilot : Burkitt Rudd
Notes : This flight went across the lakes using sea breeze convergence over Grasmere finally landing scarily between two large sets of powerlines next to the A6 north east of Selside.
Hang Gliding
No records for this site

Swinside Map

Legend

Swinside Map