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Wastwater Screes

West Lakes - West of Scafell

WNW - NNW

Overview

With the right forecast it is still a gamble to travel to this side of the lakes and have the right conditions to fly on the Screes. This is probably why it is so infrequently flown, usually by the few locals over here.

Despite the chance of of a long drive for nothing, the views over the green pastures and Wastwater makes this the most remarkable site to fly.


Certainly a site everyone must visit a few times in their flying career.

Take Off


Landing


Height (AMSL) :  1267' / 386m


Top to Bottom :  1070' / 326m


Site Officer: David Ashcroft 07752750869

Important!


Beware of rotor to west side of take off from Greathall Ghyll, especially if the wind is off the hill.


During lambing time if there are sheep in the official landing field please ask for permission to use it at Eastwaite FaNY136034


Local pilot rep: David Ashcroft 07752 750869

Access

Parking


Car Park OS Grid Ref: NY128038


Getting There

Through Nether Wasdale (from Gosforth), turn right, then immediately left over bridge, and up farm lane to Easthwaite Farm for permission to use landing field . If you ask the farmer you may be allowed to park at the farm, and then walk up. Otherwise, return to park at Forest Bridge (just SE of Nether Wasdale).


Getting to takeoff

The official landing field is 0.6 km SE of Nether Wasdale village - at the foot of Latterbarrow Fell (forest), next to the road. At the bridge crossing the River Irt, there is a car park, dirt track to Easthwaite Farm, a white house, and a pedestrian gate to the bridle path that leads through the landing field and up to the original Take Off. There are no power cables in this field. If you walk up from here, you just follow the bridle path SE for 30 minutes until you get to the first take off option on Irton Fell (not Irton Pike). Until you get to this height, the wind direction and strength can be misleading. If it is too light, or you want more height, continue NE. In strong conditions there is some rotor or sink below take off from Latterbarrow in front.

[Note for HG pilots: The forestry road at the rear of Irton Fell can be driven to 300m from take off but the gate is often locked and obtaining a key requires inside knowledge I haven't got. Driving up is really the only option for HGs followed by a relatively straightforward 20 minute carry. If you need even more height then you should join the path that takes you to the top of the screes in about 35 minutes where there is a huge ideal take off as described next.

Alternatively, if you want to walk directly to the start of the Screes - so you have as much height as possible in the shortest time (ie it's steep) - drive down to the YHA at the SW end of Wastwater. Park on the lane west of the entrance. Note: It's tempting to land here, even on a PG, but trees / power line / sloping ground make it tricky. I would recommend the official landing field described above which is ideal. Walk back along the lane (SW) to a steel ˜kissing gate" and cross a field down to the river. Observe the second field on your LHS (which is not an agreed landing field). Take note of the power lines crossing the lower corner (high lighted in RED on plan). Continue up the river and cross the footbridge. Walk up stream again and then turn right and cross the lane via gates into a field below the fell. Huff and puff and sweat for 30 minutes straight up the fell via a small gate. Half way up you leave the bracken and it gradually starts to get easier. NOTE the big gulley on your right Greathall Ghyll). Keep well away from this when taking off or flying low. Keep walking up until you're happy you can take off and stay up. Then walk some more!


Permission to use site

No permission needed for take off

Flying

Hazards

If the wind at take off is fresh, then don't fly.

Beware of rotor to west side of take off from Greathall Ghyll, especially if the wind is off the hill.

The Screes run directly into the lake at a steep angle with very little landing options.

If you do loose lift, don't hang about, take the quickest route out of there (shortest or direction of your fastest beat).


There are plenty of landing options at either end of the lake but only spot landings below (between large loose scree) - and a technical walk out.


The flat top if ok for landing in a light breeze, but possible rotor in mod / fresh winds.


Experienced pilots might fly across the Burnmoor gap, and onto Scafell and back again. It's a long glide across and the next obvious lift is where the west face of Scafell drops off suddenly at Black Crags.

Approach with caution as sometimes you find lift over the lip and other times you enter sink! Thermals can pop up here or further out. If the wind is off to the North, as you approach the summit of Scafell, Scafell Pike (the next hill) might give you rotor or complex air.


Beyond Scafell the topography gets complicated, and the wind direction / lift / sink is not predicable.


Only UK mountain experienced pilots should play in his area which is a junction of major valleys.


Almost forgot to mention Sea Breeze! On a sunny summer's day the sea breeze will probably turn the wind into a westerly and off the Screes ridge. From a safety point of view this isn't an issue except for rotor thrown off the gulley mentioned above* near take off. But if you've driven a long way it's a bugger!

However, if the prevailing wind is forecast to be a moderate (not light) NNW on a sunny summer's day, the inevitable sea breeze will bring it more on the hill in the afternoon.


Take Off

The official landing field (NY127035) is 0.6 km SE of Nether Wasdale village - at the foot of Latterbarrow Fell (forest), next to the road. At the bridge crossing the River Irt, there is a car park, dirt track to Easthwaite Farm, a white house, and a pedestrian gate to the bridle path that leads through the landing field and up to the original Take Off. There are no power cables in this field. If you walk up from here, you just follow the bridle path SE for 30 minutes until you get to the first take off option on Irton Fell (not Irton Pike). Until you get to this height, the wind direction and strength can be misleading. If it is too light, or you want more height, continue NE. In strong conditions there is some rotor or sink below take-off from Latterbarrow in front.


[Note for HG pilots: The forestry road at the rear of Irton Fell can be driven to 300m from take off but the gate is often locked and obtaining it requires inside knowledge I haven’t got. Driving up is really the only option for HGs]. For hang glider pilots it is possible to arrange access through the forestry to arrive at an area in the forest behind take off leaving a relatively straightforward 20 minute carry. If you need even more height then you should join the path that takes you to the top of the screes where there is a huge ideal take off described next (another 30 min walk).


However, if you want to walk directly to the start of the Screes, so you have as much height as possible in the shortest time (ie it's steep), drive down to the YHA at the west end of Wasdale. Park on the lane west of the entrance. Note: It's tempting to land here, even on a PG, but trees / power line / sloping ground make it tricky. I would recommend the official landing field described above which is ideal. Walk back along the lane (SW) to a steel ˜kissing gate" and cross a field down to the river. Observe the second field on your LHS (which is not an agreed landing field). Take note of the power lines crossing the lower corner (see plan). Continue up the river and cross the footbridge. Walk up stream again and then turn right and cross the lane via gates into a field below the fell. Huff and puff and sweat for 30 minutes straight up the fell via a small gate. Half way up you leave the bracken and it gradually starts to get easier. NOTE the big gulley on your right*. Keep well away from this when taking off or flying low. Keep walking up until you're happy you can take off and stay up. Then walk some more!


Landing Areas

The official landing field is 0.6 km SE of Nether Wasdale village - at the foot of Latterbarrow Fell (forest), next to the road. At the bridge crossing the River Irt, there is a car park, dirt track to Easthwaite Farm, a white house, and a pedestrian gate to the bridle path that leads through the landing field and up to the original Take Off. RE hang glider pilots, it is possible to arrange access through the forestry to arrive at an area in the forest behind take off leaving a relatively straightforward 20 min. carry. The notes for paragliders generally apply. Excellent with good potential. Consider bottom landing areas before flying ... especially if going north and you get low. No official bottom landing field.


Flying



The lake gives you a good indication of wind strength and direction at ground level. If you wish to land at Wasdale Head the normal landing field is the overflow car park (rarely used field) between the main car park and the toilets / barn.


XC potential


Experienced pilots might fly across the Burnmoor gap, and onto Scafell and back again. It's a long glide across and the next obvious lift is where the west face of Scafell drops off suddenly at Black Crags. Approach with caution as sometimes you find lift over the lip and other times you enter sink! Thermals can pop up here or further out. If the wind is off to the North, as you approach the summit of Scafell, Scafell Pike (the next hill) might give you rotor or complex air.

Beyond Scafell the topography gets complicated, and the wind direction / lift / sink is no predicable. Only UK mountain experienced pilots should play in his area which is a junction of major valleys.


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